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Tuesday, May 13, 2008

Thoughts on flaws, criticisms and transparency...

Recent spate of events has set me thinking...

Why am i so prone to criticisms by others? Especially by friends, which is even worse.


Don't criticise others and you won't be criticise by others??
The thing is I usually don't criticise others at all, so why this critical treatment??
And its not because they are flawless or perfect sia.
But because i chose to keep quiet about it, not wanting to disturb the peaceful relationship.

But i just realised this "don't criticise others if you don't want to be criticised" theory don't work at all. If you don't criticise others, others would do that to you. And if you keep quiet and be nice to others, they would think they don't have as much flaws as you and that sorta give them the right to talk about you critically.

Treating others considerately may not equate to others giving you a similar treatment after all. So, why bother trying so hard to be so considerate, tactful and nice towards them when they don't even give a heck?


Defence! Why bear the insult?
When someone passed me a negative remark, i used to think "why bother to cover these flaws? After all, they are good friends already, and they probably have good intentions to change me for the better." Or when someone joked about my flaws, i used to think "it's okay, they are just kidding, no harm. Don't make a mountain out of a molehill".

But no, i realised if you keep quiet and don't defend yourself on the spot, others will think that you admit and agreed with them. That little little harm may thus accumulate to the mountain, when negative remarks and jokes occurs at higher frequency, at a greater level, and even to the point of hurtful insult. I sometimes wonder, what are they thinking? With increasing hurtful comments, are they trying to test my threshold of tolerance, or do they want to see my response when i reach that threshold? And recently that threshold has been greatly lowered, and if i do reach it, it's definitely not gonna be pretty.

And the part about their good intention? Nah... i realised (sadly) that most people criticise just so they can feel good about themselves, like putting others down while boosting their self-confidence or something. After all feeling good about oneself is the very most basic goal of every human, consciously or subconsciously (cited from ET's notes, thus not a sweeping statement). And also, if they really have good intentions, where's their good advice? Why only a truck full of criticisms but no suggestions or solutions to the problem?? Not only that, the tone of that person also tells a lot. Even a fool can differentiate between concern and plain mocking.


Transparency: Displaying too much of yourself?
Again, i used to think i really do have many flaws...while others seem to be flawless. Everyone has flaws. But perhaps, my main big flaw is that i'm super transparent to others that i don't really hide my unglam, my bad habits, and my whatever other flaws to others. While on the other hand, those seemingly "flawless others" are very good in hiding or "justifying" their own negative points. And because my flaws are known, others tend to up-play them, making them more salient to everyone else, including me, while they cover theirs well. For many years i foolishly believe in it, and that's probably why i lost confidence in myself along the way.

Yup, but a good number of events and some people has taught me not to reveal too much to another, esp flaws. And being nice is only for people who are nice to you. Being nice to someone who isn't to you is no longer called magnanimity, but now seen as foolishness, even to that same not nice someone whom you treat nicely.


Of course these are just my thoughts, and venting of my frustration. So there's no need to spark up a debate or anything. And it's not refering to a specific someone, but about a couple of events in general. May or may not apply to you, you be your own judge.

10 comments:

Jelmer said...

Ha, you said 'And being nice is only for people who are nice to you. '

So what happens if someone u hated for some time is being nice to u first? Do you still be nice to them back?

Hmmm....

averii said...

Then you should change the comment thing...
"x of the nicest people just commented"

Change to:
"x of the bo-liao-est people just commented"...

Hahaha...


Anyway, you already have those traits which you don't like mentioned in your blog...
Maybe you didn't noticed it...

Everybody has them...
Just whether they want to show it or not...
And how much they want to show it...

Summergal said...

Jelmer:

Hmmm.. i said that mainly in the context of simply comparing between people who are nice and those who aren't.

But if you wan further categorize nice ppl into ppl you like and dislike, and further analyse... i think there are many many factors to consider liao. Haha..

Like why in the first place you hate that someone? Is it because he/she offended you in the past? Or simply because you just dislike him/her as a person? For me, the latter is pretty rare or non-existent, cos for me to hate someone, they really must have offended me.

So towards these people who (suddenly?) become nice, I'll still be nice to them, as in being polite and not provoking them etc. But at the same time i'll be wary (sub/consciously), and definitely won't go all out being enthu in displaying how much i like them. That's called hypocritical!

But if you are referring to people who haven't offended you and are nice to you, but you just don't really like them... That i reli no experience, but most probably similar attitudes as above bah.

That's my general attitude bah. But again, it really depends on many many other factors also.

like how you want the r/s to progress? to maintain? or make it more distant?

like how explicitly you want to get the message across to the other party? tell him frankly? or hint?

like also, in what situation do you interact with him? in front of many people? with him alone?

Then it leads to even more other factors like how you want portray yourself to him? or to the other people who are around?

And also the implications of being not nice to the other party whom you hate. Like if the other person has great social influence, or has super bad temper/ugly response to it.. you would want to think twice rite? Also if that person is part of your community, being not nice will affect the dynamics of the group that you might cherish rite?

Etc etc etc...

Soooo mmannny factors (!!!!), be it conscious or subconscious, that determines whether people ultimately becomes nice to that person anot. So i shall stick to the conventional answer... It depends!


Averii:

Haha.. So you mean you think that you are very bo-liao?? Lol..

Anyway which traits you referring to?? You are pretty vague...

And what's your point in commenting "Everybody has them...
Just whether they want to show it or not...
And how much they want to show it..."??

Are you trying to elaborate? Cos i did mention "most people" and "everyone" having a few of the traits in my blog what..

But again, it still boils down to what traits you are referring to...

And I asked, cos I don't wanna misinterpret your meaning again.

averii said...

Wah, exam over liao leh...
Why still writing essay??

Okie, wo pei ni xie essay...


Anyway, some traits mentioned in your blog are:

Criticizing others when they don't criticize you...
(For your case, perhaps not so much as in front of them...
I think the 'criticize' you mentioned refers to face-on confrontation...)

Criticize just so you can feel good about yourself...

Criticize but no suggestion/solutions to the problem...
(Because we are all lazy...)

But hey, you have been defending yourself already lo when other people say you, from as far as I can remember...
And you were pretty efficient at it...

But one thing I agree, you are quite transparent...


"Everybody has them...
Just whether they want to show it or not...
And how much they want to show it..."

My point is too emphasized that everyone has those traits mentioned in your blog...
And I made an absolute statement, provided the people are of sound mind and average intelligence...

However, not everyone showed the same degree of those traits to the world...

Anyway, you are not the only one facing huge amount of criticism...
Many of us do, just that we either dunno that people are criticizing us, or we simply don't care...

Hey, let's join the "Don't Care" club...
I let you be the secretary, want??

Summergal said...

dunno leh.. mayb the yrs of education has trained me not to ans any question simplistically. lol..

anyway, perhaps i do comment, but i remember they are usually objective and not insulting. So maybe what i meant by 'criticising' is more towards insulting, though not exactly insulting, because not the exact words are said, BUT the underlying meaning is obviously there.

You know for eg like, "What?!! You did this???" *rolls eyes*. It's not exactly an insult, but the rolling eyes action, and maybe also with a sarcastic tone, clearly carries the message of disrespect, ridicule, and other negative messages. (consciously/subconsciously)

In fact this eg can also illustrate what i'm talking about in the blog.

Cos my next natural thoughts are..

"I have never criticised (/insult) you, so why are you insulting me?"

"Perhaps this is really one of my flaws, don't you have any??"

Then it esp irritates me when i later found that the person may also have the same exact flaw which i rcved criticism for. Just that he/she cleverly attribute it to other things.

One prev eg, "You failed the exam because you are stupid. I failed because i don't really care, because of lack of sleep, because..."

I know this is common, i do too sometimes. But if you notice, i'm usually weak in defense (whr got efficient?), because in part i believe i myself am partly responsible too. So the main difference is, i do take part of the responsibility, while the other party don't at all. So it seems as if i'm the only one with this flaw.. And most people believe it, emphasize it, joke(?) about it, and then keeps repeating it! Over time, most people then formed negative stereotypes and assumptions.

The most extreme case is someone who after stating a negative assumption, he/she actually expect me to accept this assumption?!! Then start proving to me he/she is right by digging out past examples and all, leaving me no room to defend at all.

Okay maybe everyone do that sometimes, varying in degree. But what i've met is some extreme cases, like that someone did that almost everytime we meet and crticising me seriously and heavily. So obviously that someone is no longer a friend liao.



And well, i did try to "don't care". But as i said, it doesn't work. Because they would think it's okay to make such comments and keep repeating them again and again, then going more and more overboard.
Then no matter how "don't care" you are, over time you would also be affected wat.

That is also akin to reminding you your flaws again and again. Then even if you change, or trying to change, they don't bother, and won't change the negative stereotype of you. how would you feel?

Obviously i'll naturally start to wonder. So what's their point of repeating?? To remind me that i've so many flaws? People can say i lack of confidence, that i should have more confidence. But in the first place, how am i going to do so when they are the very same people who also constantly puts me down by emphasizing and reminding me of my flaws?

Sorry this is another essay... Can't help pouring out my rushing thoughts. (Actually i already edited this and shorten liao...) Haaa...

averii said...

Lol...

Essay then write in the normal blog post lar...
Write in comments people usually don't see one...
Don't waste a good blog post...

Okie, let's see if I can essay back or not...


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"What?!! You did this???"
*rolls eyes*

Actually, got many people do this to me, but I usually don't find it insulting...
Cos usually, I am in a very idiotic mood...

Like:
I complained my hands are dirty, and when someone asked why, I say "Because I go use my hand to paint..."

Haha, okie, bad example...
I think I understand what you mean, it depends on the situation...
You have your reasons for doing wadever thing you are doing, but people just discredit it...
Maybe next time you try explaining, very detailedly??
(Very detailed, because misunderstandings usually occurs due to lack of information...)
If doesn't work, roll your eyes back...
See if they like it...

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Hmmm, just because you never criticize the person, the person cannot criticize you???
Perhaps you have flaws, and the other person have flaws too, but got flaws cannot criticize other people??

Why cannot??

E.g:
The person's action irks me, so I criticize the person, but the person never criticize me before...
I am stupid, but you are ugly, so I say you are ugly even though I am stupid...

Confusing?? Well, happy decoding!! =-p

The condition is = IF AND ONLY IF these are FACTS...
Of course, if the person is just insulting you, and not stating facts, than it is a different matter altogether...

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"Then it esp irritates me when i later found that the person may also have the same exact flaw which i received criticism for. Just that he/she cleverly attribute it to other things."

Yes, it may be irritating, but what if it really is true??
Nobody can tell...

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"because in part i believe i myself am partly responsible too"
Good wad, shows that you are humble...
Humblity (got such a word or not?) is a virtue...

You also cannot be 100% sure that the other party did not feel responsible for the flaws...
Perhaps, like you, they feel a small part of it, but they just did not show it...

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"Over time, most people then formed negative stereotypes and assumptions."
If those people choose to believe in what others say about you, and not really getting to know you in the first place, then these people are not fit to be your friend...
So, no loss there...

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"So it seems as if i'm the only one with this flaw.."
It 'seems only' wadd, but it isn't necessary true...
And I believe nobody will actually think the others are all angels who don't sinned or have no flaws...

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"The most extreme case is someone who after stating a negative assumption, he/she actually expect me to accept this assumption?!! Then start proving to me he/she is right by digging out past examples and all, leaving me no room to defend at all."

Hmmmm, if he/she can dig out past evidence, then no room left for you to defend...
(Got people want to accuse you, and still give you room for defence one meh??)
And if the evidence is true, then the assumption is not an assumption anymore le right??

Unless the evidence is not strong enough, or is the wrong usage of evidence...

So if you think that the assumption is unfair to you, protest and demand for an appeal...
Hee, send to high courts... If the appeal is sucessful, counter-sue back!!!
But of course, must make sure that the charges are True and Relevant, otherwise, you will be the same as that person...

Speaking of which, you where got not efficient at defending?? Got what...
Fan ying hai heng kuai leh!!! Wo duo lei bu ji ding huai... Hai dao wo you shi hou hen luan...

But it is wrong to force you to accept the assumption...

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"someone did that almost everytime we meet and crticising me seriously and heavily"

Wah, sure anot, so extreme...
(-.-)...?
Then why you friend with that person in the first place????
Okie, maybe true colours does not show so early...
Thank goodness you managed to escape...

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"And well, i did try to "don't care". But as i said, it doesn't work. Because they would think it's okay to make such comments and keep repeating them again and again, then going more and more overboard."
Errr...
When I say 'don't care', I meant as in don't care about what they think of you or say of you especially if the person is not significant...
But does not mean 'don't bother' what...
(Wait, this sentence is confusing, I shall elaborate further later)


"akin to reminding you your flaws again and again"
"they don't bother, and won't change the negative stereotype of you. how would you feel?"
"But in the first place, how am i going to do so when they are the very same people who also constantly puts me down by emphasizing and reminding me of my flaws?"

I think the reason why you would feel upset, is because it matters to you about what others think of you...
You are sensitive in this area... So naturally, you will feel upset...
But that is normal, a lot of girls feel this way too...


I used to in the past, but not anymore...

If what others think of me are just wrong assumptions, I will not feel upset if they are not someone of significance..
If they are important to me, I will explain to them, and make them understand...
(Must explain very detailedly, cos as mentioned above, lack of information always leads to misunderstandings...)
Even if they are not important, I will try and explain, but if they don't believe, too bad lor...
It's their loss for not knowing the real me...

If you found out that in the end, the assumptions they made about you are true after all, and you just realised it...
There's no need to feel inferior or lose your confidence...
Either you change yourself, or accept it...

(Unless, of course, the assumptions that were true, ranges from "omg, you are a pervert" to "you are a cheating, lying bastard", then perhaps it would be morally responsible of you to feel guilty and inferior...)

Anyway, if you don't like it when someone harped on one of your flaws, kindly remind them about it everytime they mention it...
Jiu le jiu hui ji de le...
Because, even though you say you don't want to criticize the person as you want to maintain the peace, but that does not mean you cannot speak out and state that you do not like it...

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Nice?? I write long essay for you to read...

But now my brain feels dead...

Arrggg...

Summergal said...

But i'm replying to your comment leh.. Of cos i reply under comments.

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Haha.. yea, i'll go practise my eye-rolling. lol..


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Hmmm.. but if ppl gv you respect in not criticizing you (esp so in front of others), shouldn't you do so too?

Using your eg, if i'm ugly and you're stupid.

I never comment that you're stupid before, but you come tell me i'm ugly just because it irks you??

And i think "Facts" in terms of traits is a very subjective thing. I mean how can you tell me "It's a fact that you are ugly what." What are you basing on? Your perception? Cos thr's no std measure for beauty bah.

Similarly i can't tell you "It's a fact that you are stupid" either. i'm basing on my perception? myself? or my friends as benchmark? What about the major population out there?

So can't say it's a fact mah.

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It's even worse when you criticize others in front of other people. Eg, You made it obvious that you think i'm ugly in front of them, esp when I din offend you or anything.

So what do you expect me to do?

To keep quiet, be seen as admitting to it, and let others think that I am like that mah? If it's you, would you?

No bah... Most probably you would defend yourself or attack back. And again, if a few times still can laugh it off. Repeating it will become irritating and less tolerable.

So in front of others, i don't think it's a matter of sensitive or not le. Someone is now 'advertising' your bad points to others. And i don't think bad points are something you want to publicise to the rest of the world bah... esp by someone else somemore~!! *rolls eyes*

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But even if you want defend, others will then want break your defence to insist they are right. Ya, like what you say, if they want prove that they are right about your flaw, they will probly argue, dig out evidence and leave no room for you to defend.

But no need be so jue bah... If it's a frien (esp one whom you wan continue e friendship wif), i think one shdn't be too critical and leave some room for him/her to defend lor. So-called hou-tai. But that someone which i mention, don't really allow me to. Whatever defence, that person use egs to prove me wrong. And in front of others somemore.=(

And it's ok if you're arguing abt other external issues. But now it's a sensitive, personal issue that you're arguing abt.

Sth like this 2 scenarios..


When Don't Defend..
A: "you are stupid lar.."

B: "..." *diao*

A, to C: "Haha.. you see, B has nth to say oso."


When Defend...
A: "you are stupid lar.."

B: "No!!!"

A: "Aren't you meh? You failed in IQ tests, exams and .. Tell me am i wrong meh? So i'm right in saying you are stupid what."

If you were B, how you feel? A is your friend. And A is now analysing how stupid you are, and proving to you that you are indeed stupid. And won't stop till you stop defending or agree to A's accusations.

You can't defend cos the evidence against you isn't untrue. But A is using these few incidence to justify your intelligence. You want to attack back, but A cover the tracks well and C (also your friend, wth!) also helps A against you! So you're alone in defending... and for what? for your own character, your own traits, your own reputation! If you lose, it means they're right, in predicting YOU as a person and YOUR behaviours.

1st few times i still pondered over their words. Yar, mayb i do have these flaws. Yes i shd take note.

But everytime we all meet, i realised (much later) we almost always end up talkig abt my flaws. And it's A who almost always initiated it. Tried to defend, but C always on A's side! End up them justifying that their accusations are 'true'.

So.. acc to you, everytime i've to accept the flaws they imposed on me, jus cos they r able to justify it?

That's one of the extreme cases which i can't forget, but it's now over alr. The main thing is i've learnt not to so easily believe in others' accusations and not to be so transparent for others to use it as evidence against me.

Overall, i'm not saying one cannot criticise at all. But it's about not stepping over the line and going overboard with words. Most importantly is basic respect bah. Teasing is okay, but insulting isn't. When criticising a person, also must see who and how many ppl around bah. I'm sure that person don't need others to advertise his/her weaknesses.

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Try not to essay me back yar, i'm also always brain-dead aft my replies! lolx...

averii said...

Hahaha...

I shouldn't essay back cos I got a progress report to write...

But I'm finding reasons to procrastinate it...


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Okie, maybe I'm not clear in using examples, or in my explaining...
I think we are talking about something slightly different from each other...

Lol, I forgot you mentioned that the "criticize" you used is more towards the insulting side...
The one I used is more like stating facts, or perhaps, to be more clear, judgments that is subject to average standards...

New example:
I cannot even pass my PSLE, and do not grasp many concepts well, and get cheated by conman often...
You have big googly gold fish eyes that are too wide apart, a sibeh flat and fat nose, and buck teeth...

Now do we fulfill the average society's standards of stupid and ugly??

Haha, yes, "facts" in terms of traits are very subjective...
But still, as shown in the above example, would you still tell me that I am smart as compared to a new-born baby, or you are very pretty when compared to someone who is disfigured??
A bit ridiculous lar...

Hence, I shall define "facts" in terms of judgment by the average society standards...
Even that is also very vague, thus "facts" should also includes tolerance range as well...
(Sounds a bit like engineering...)


Well, "people give you respect by not criticizing"...
But I also think that if they criticize you, it is also a form of respect...

I mean, if a person have some flaws is seriously serious, and the person is very deluded and did not realized about the flaws he/she possessed, wouldn't it be disrespectful if we all continue to let him/her be, while all the time being irritated or anger by the flaws??
It would mean that the person (with the serious flaw) does not even warrant enough importance to you, as you neglect to tell him/her the flaws...


"I never comment that you're stupid before, but you come tell me I'm ugly just because it irks you??"
Well, wrong use of example again... I shall try a new one...

New example:
You are super ugly and yet you still want to enter Miss Singapore contest...
Then you keep insisting that you have what it takes to join...
You never mention about my stupidity before, but I come and tell you that you are too ugly to join...

or

You have a super terrible voice, and you keep singing some old hokkien song on the mrt...
I wear some ob-biang 60s clothing and ugly hairstyle...
You singing irks me, and even though you never say anything about my dress sense, I come and tell you that your singing suxx...


Lol...



Arrrgghhh, anyway, we need a summary:

Criticism is acceptable if:
- it is a "fact"
- the intention is for (and/or)
-- the good of the person
-- expressing discontent
-- teasing (although may go overboard cos people usually let their guard and tact down when relaxing, but bear in mind there's no ill intention)

Criticism is not acceptable if:
- it is exaggerated/ false, and you are force to agree with it
- the intention is for (and/or)
-- alleviating your status at the expense of others (make yourself look superior and the other inferior)
(For the extreme cases only...
As I have mentioned before, everyone have the same traits, just different intensity...
Everyone will alleviate their status at the expense of others...
Cos when you criticize the person, it is to show that the person have the flaw which you don't have (or have very little), so doesn't it meant that you are better in this aspect??
However, for the extreme cases, he/she will emphasized a lot on the differences in status until it is very significant...
That, is when I think it is unacceptable...)


Haha...
Sounds a bit like what you wrote in your post...

But the parts I disagree most are the intentions part, because unfortunately, we cannot be sure of the person's intention...
Body language and tone may play a part in it, but it is not 100% accurate...
(Cos I got a few times, accuse of being "Fierce" to others when I did was to look at the person...
Damn, I cannot control my facial contour lar...)


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"It's even worse when you criticize others in front of other people. Eg, You made it obvious that you think i'm ugly in front of them, esp when I din offend you or anything."

I think it depends on the situation...
If it is like what you said, more towards the insulting type, den of cos cannot lar...
But if it is acceptable criticism, still can tolerate lar...

But ya, if the person continue to repeat it, I will attack back...

Keeping quiet doesn't have to mean agreeing with it waadd...
It means "No Comment"... Lol...


"So what do you expect me to do?"
Errr... Read my previous comment?? I got give some suggestions...


If it were me, I may or may not agree with the statement made, and not just defend or attack all the way...
- Agree if the criticism is acceptable and proven true...
- Disagree if it is not true, and prove my point...
- If it is an insult (unacceptable criticism) , my course of action will be to counter-attack, because I am not a passive person...

There is some sensitivity involved in a way, because people with different sensitivity will view the criticism differently...
Perhaps I may find the statement acceptable, but you may not etc...


"And i don't think bad points are something you want to publicise to the rest of the world bah... esp by someone else somemore~!!"

I got a low tolerance level for some extreme traits which I hate...
So if someone publicize that I have a foul temper, maybe those people with the extreme traits I hate will stay far far away from me!!!
Yeah!!! Hahaha...

Okie, it depends on the bad point and the people around you...
If the people around you is not that close with you, den cannot lar...


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"But no need be so jue bah... If it's a frien (esp one whom you wan continue e friendship wif), i think one shdn't be too critical and leave some room for him/her to defend lor. So-called hou-tai. But that someone which i mention, don't really allow me to. Whatever defence, that person use egs to prove me wrong. And in front of others somemore.=("

Lol, okie, it is rather bad if it is:
- an insult
- about a sensitive, personal issue
- repeated dragged out in the open in front of everybody

(But if it is an acceptable criticism I think it is still okay...
It is the insult part (unacceptable criticism) which is unacceptable...
Unless you are the enemy...)

I think that your friend is either very clueless, or doesn't treat you like a friend at all...

If your friend is clueless, you have to tell him/her that you don't like it...
Like you said, you keep quiet about it, so it means that you are okay with it...
So if you speak out, I'm sure your friend will know that he/she have over-step the boundaries...
Because there are people who are very clueless and/or have very low EQ, so have to tell and remind them...

If your friend don't treat you like a friend at all...
You already know what to do le right...


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Regarding your example...
Let Teacher Averii give you some tips on 'People Like A':


When Don't Defend..
A: "you are stupid lar.."

B: "..." *diao*

A, to C: "Haha.. you see, B has nth to say oso."

B: "No, because Wo Lan De Li Ni... Say lor, who cares what you think lar..."

(Using the "you are insignificant" tactic)


When Defend...
A: "you are stupid lar.."

B: "No!!!"

A: "Aren't you meh? You failed in IQ tests, exams and .. Tell me am i wrong meh? So i'm right in saying you are stupid what."

B: "Yes you are wrong... You are superficial because you judge me based on these few miserable measurements... Like, omg, don't you realized that there is more to life than that?? *look at A like he is the stupid one instead, then quickly end conversation*"

(Using the "counter-attack" and "change track" method)


Yes, if I were B, I would have a fun time insulting back...
Then later make a mental note to myself that I found a nice idiot to practice my attacking on...

Lol, okie, of cos I won't like it lar...
A has clearly violate the acceptable criticism conditions, and falls straight into acceptable criticism...

Anyway, according to me, the "Acceptance" I was talking about is only applicable if the criticism is true...
Just because they managed to justify it, it does not prove that it is true, but just showed that B and C make good lawyers...

It is TRUE, only when YOU Realized It As True Yourself, not other people who judge you say it is true..
When I say "accept it", I meant accepting it as part of yourself, something which you can change to a certain extent but perhaps not totally, so there is no need to feel inferior or lose confidence in yourself...

No, most definitely NOT accepting what they told you, unless YOU YOURSELF agree with it...


(Wah, your friend is really extreme... Anyone I know??
Don't tell me is __________ and __________)


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Arrrgghhh, my report!!!
I haven't write!!!
I am so dead...

(>.<;)

Summergal said...

Aiyo.. another essay sia..

Hmmm... basically i've said all that i've wanted to say. If i continue, it'll only be repeating my points.

I know what you're trying to get at generally. You're trying to say that criticizing may not be a bad thing depending on situation.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but i just feel that even if wanna criticize, shd gv 'face' to the other, shd use tactful methods. That's all.

After all if the person's intention is for the good of the other party, i think the main purpose of criticizing is mainly to create awareness of his/her serious flaw to the other party, so that he/she will change.

So I don't think there's a need to pressure one to accept the flaw bah, whether thr's some truth to it or not.

Okay using your eg, ugly person wants to be Miss Singapore. Even if you think it's a fact she can never be Miss Singapore with her looks, but who knows? She might have other qualities that may qualify~!! intelligence, wits.. blah blah.. Plus with current makeup skills and cosmetic surgeries, it's not impossible!! HAha~!!

Of cos not saying it applies to all cases. For an obnoxious person who brags and hao lian kind that you super bu shuang, i don't think i'll object. lolx.. But for a person who really wants it bad, but it's you who think she can't. I think should give her a chance to try, fail and learn, rather than make her accept her that she's ugly and & kill her hope at the very start.

Actually sometimes i think it's more useful to help boost your friend's confidence rather than criticizing. Or even if don't boost also don't criticize so much or so harshly. Cos criticizing is in a way making the other to focus on his/her flaw. I think it may instead hinder progress esp when freq of it is high and a person may start focusing more on his/her flaws and start losing sight of his/her strengths. When the saliency of strengths outweigh the weaknesses, he/she most likely will lose confidence. I think it's pretty inevitable esp if the freq is high.

I noe criticizing too motivates one to progress. But i believe sometimes rewards (compliments) can make one go farther than punishments (criticisms). I'm sure you would feel better if you're motivated through rewards (compliments) rather than through lack of punishments (no flaws, no criticism) rite?

I also noe it's not easy for ppl to think so much before criticizing. But i think people shd be more aware of it that's all. Actually as i'm writing this, i also know it includes me too. sighs.

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Haha.. thanks for your Averii's tips! lolx...

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No actually that someone din exactly insult. Insult is different people. But that someone criticize heavily. And no, i won't disclose anybody's names. you may or may not know. You can guess...

May or not get it right...

But i may or may not tell you that you're right..

Hahhahaha...

averii said...

Okie, no more essay...

Sian of writing essay liao...

In reference to your last few statments...

"Dotz Dotz DotZZZZzzz"

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